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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 17, 2012 9:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

Same as it ever was.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/pussy-riot-trial-guilty_n_1795570.html

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 17, 2012 12:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

I'm surprised the enlightened Russian judicial system gives time served. So it's 19 months more in jail for this,

http://tinyurl.com/bu9oe3e

So on your next trip to Russia don't do Anything in an Orthodox cathedral, church or monastery. Shallow breaths, look straight ahead, don't touch anything and definitely do not go beyond any gated area. Your American/British passport probably will get you off if you stray, but don't count on it. Depends on whether Vlad thinks there is an opportunity.

Since Maria Alyokhina is unmarried I wonder if she will bring her (small) child into Kiddie prison with her (to be Mom and with her for the first time in five months) and thus be sparred some of the video I posted on Monday.

Yekaterina Samutsevich is going to straight Big Girl prison with its beatings, rapes, gangs, ect..

Nadezhda Tolokonnikova is married and has a young child so she will be off Big Girl prison too.

I dearly hope for the safely of them all. I also hope their families have some cash, b/c that could make life so much easier. So with a target on your back, general population or protective custody (solitary)?

If your religion is so precarious that what these women did rocks your view or relationship with God think of this. God created the Earth, the solar system, and the galaxies, and for you Big Bangers out there, the first action of God was the Big Bang which created the universe. I could be wrong but some certain sq. feet in Moscow don't mean a thing. Isn't it a Kingdom of the Heart?

These women ought to have been punished: a small fine, a little probation. The rights of those praying in the cathedral ought to be respected too. The Religious sentries and guards in the cathedral, the political ladder up to Vlad as well as the Judicial and the Media (well that's Vlad's too) outlets can all go fuck themselves. No lube.

http://tinyurl.com/dy5tqhe

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Poster: user unknown Date: Aug 17, 2012 1:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

I'm not sure "time served" is a part of Russian justice. There is a possibility that the planned appeal could net the "defendants" some sort of early release. Their defense attorney indicates they will not seek a pardon from Putin.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 17, 2012 1:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

"Russian justice", sorry if cry.

These women could emerge to be in the leadership of the opposition. A pardon would ruin that possibility.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Aug 17, 2012 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

I don't think the punishment fit the "crime". I was hoping for "time served", and even that seems a bit excessive.

Had this "performance" taken place in Cathedral Square(instead of in the largest Cathedral in Moscow), the outcome might have been a bit different. And is a cathedral really the proper venue for a profanity laced rage against the machine"?

I think the publicity is exactly what this protest performance art troupe was aiming for. And they may just be thankful that the judge showed a bit of Mr. Putin's suggested leniency by sentencing them to only two years instead of the maximum seven years their "crime" carries.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Aug 17, 2012 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

I wouldn't be surprised for a similar outcome if the same thing happened in a church here in the good ol' US of A...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 17, 2012 10:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

Seriously? That's tripe for dinner for you. This ain't fucking Mecca when you look around.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Aug 17, 2012 7:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

Personally, I don't think interrupting a church service for the sake of protest is a good approach. It sure got them a hell of a lot of publicity though. They must have known the possible outcome of their actions and decided to act as martyrs.

As for your Mecca statement, people may not worship a rock in the middle of the desert but I see a great majority worshiping the TV screen in the middle of their living rooms.

I am grateful for the freedom I do have. I am thankful for my parents bringing me to this lovely country. I am not oblivious to the steady march towards a 1984 style existence.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 17, 2012 9:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

I could not have typed it better (with one small quibble).

The band did not interrupt a service. The church severs a tourist function as well, like St. Patrick in NYC. I believe the band ought to have been find a small amount of money and some probation time (whatever that is in Russia). That punishment is for the folks praying in the cathedral, which ought to be inviolate anywhere. In the middle of a 'service' more so. If these girls don't get broken by prison or themselves, we may remember this day.

>TV screen in the middle of their living rooms.

Blue light of judgement.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 17, 2012 11:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

You've never been to Deerborn, Michigan...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 17, 2012 11:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

I think what would happen if a similar event had taken place at one of the Pentacostal Mega-Churches here in Phoenix. Would not have ended well.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 17, 2012 11:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

Why? That would violate clear precepts. Sell your soul for some brick and mortar? It's all dust anyways. There eyes would be looking the wrong way.

I disagree. Maybe a small few young in their faith.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Aug 17, 2012 7:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

Rules are always broken. Without this fact, there would be no need for going through Communion, Confession, etc.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 17, 2012 9:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

Rules are always broken, but you can always do everything you can do to lower the murder rate.

Communion is more about your relationship with Christ.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Aug 17, 2012 11:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

I do what I can, but if I was doing everything I could then I'd have to quit my job and abscond to an organic farm nestled in some fertile valley.

From the way my brain was programmed whilst I was a youngin, my relationship with Christ mainly revolves around the idea that acceptance of his love and wisdom can absolve me of my transgressions. So even if I kill some folks for starting a pussy riot, I can still go to heaven, right?

Even if I lead the Inquisition and wage a Holy War, I still have time to get good with JC.

Pardon my facetiousness, I just don't expect most people who consider themselves to be of some faith to actually follow the tenets of that faith.

Nevertheless, I must confess(!) that I was taught English by a devout Christian who heard the voice of God beckoning her to offer her services. We were in the public library and my parents were looking for books on tape for teaching English to children and they didn't have any. She stood against her logical mind at the urging of her heart and offered to teach me. An irreplaceable individual, a priceless, selfless act.



This post was modified by deadpolitics on 2012-08-18 06:15:24

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 18, 2012 10:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

Indeed. What a wonderful gift you were given.

I don't understand why we humans can do such evil unto each other and still be in relationship with Christ. Of course that journey from evil to a relationship w/ J.C. involves a changing of the heart. But as you mention, you can backslide and call another Inquisition or molest 80 kids and you still get in. Even before the firing squad or strapped to a gunnery. I don't understand why (turning the other cheek I haven't even begun to understand).

I think if you are a person of faith you try and do the best you can everyday. What else can you do? No one can follow all the tenets of Christianity all the time. That's when I read of Christ's forgiveness of me it is a model of my forgiveness of others and hopefully others forgiveness of me when I have hurt them. If we were perfect we would not need such a teaching from Christ.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Aug 17, 2012 11:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

I've been there... lotsa times. Amazing how it's changed over time. It changed from an all-white enclave to the center of the largest Iraqi population in the US.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 17, 2012 11:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK RELIGIOUS INTOLERANCE

That's a fucking ballsy statement. Your right BD. I haven't and don't want to. I was thinking Greenville, S.C.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 17, 2012 10:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

Nor would I - but I'd be similarly upset.

I have friends who spent time in prisons under the communist regimes in Czechoslovakia and Poland - a few of them simply for hosting state unapproved art shows and concerts.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Aug 17, 2012 2:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

There was a publisher (very very small press) that i met and spent an afternoon with in Brno. Back in the '70s, when he was young and foolish (like most of us were), he put on a cassette tape during a birthday party he was having, which cassette had on some 'evil' Western music (he told me but i've since forgotten, i think Zappa though) and one of his 'friend's' narced him out to the police or whatever agency handled those sorts of matters, and not only did he spend time in prison, he was also banned from going to college and forced to work instead on a state-run farm. Nice guy actually, wanted to give me practically everything he had in his tiny apartment, and i had to convince him he didn't have to give me anything. His stories were a gift beyond compare.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 17, 2012 3:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

Lubor Mata was a pal of mine (still close friends with my best man) that runs an interesting press in CR. And I would not be surprised if Zappa was the one that got your pal in trouble. As you know, unbelievably important there.
http://mata.czweb.org/katalog.php?str=edice&;ed=Rock and Pop

Mothers of Prevention ... "cant' happen here"
http://www.theroc.org/roc-mag/textarch/roc-08/roc0816b.htm

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Aug 17, 2012 5:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

interesting bit of trivia in that 2nd link about why Zappa hadn't driving since '69, i respect the hell out of someone who can take that sort of personal stance and stick with it out of principle; and you are very correct, he had huge cred amongst the people i discussed music with over there

fuck the bakers and all their ilk

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 17, 2012 6:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN-change of topic for Arb

Here's the band we've got going on at 9 tonight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdeKX7sQ0iU&;feature=related

Live music with Tumbleweed Wanderers + special guest Lia Rose
When
Fri, August 17, 8:00pm – 10:30pm
Description
Who/What: Live music with Tumbleweed Wanderers + special guest Lia Rose
Where: The Alternative Cafe 1230 Fremont Boulevard Seaside, CA 93955
When: Friday, August 17th from 8:30-10:30pm (doors open at 8pm)
Ticket price: $10 cover, all ages

Tumbleweed Wanderers:

Tumbleweed Wanderers is a group of multi-instrumentalists based out of Oakland, California. They move effortlessly from rock to soul, bluegrass, and folk, blending many genres without losing their own voice. The band has been playing music together non-stop for 7 months. They are dedicated and quickly moving through the local music world, writing an abundance of new material and constantly pushing their live show to greater heights. Based out of Oakland, Tumbleweed Wanderers expanded from local following in the San Francisco Bay Area, to establishing new fan bases in San Jose, Santa Cruz, and Sacramento, in preparation for a regular tour circuit of the California Coast and the Western US.

TW have played shows at a growing list of the Bay Area’s best small to midsize venues, from humble beginnings at Brainwash Café in San Francisco, Bittersweet Café in Oakland, and moving towards premiere venues such as Bottom of the Hill, the Boom Boom Room, and the New Parish. Together, they've performed anywhere and everywhere from clubs such as the New Parish, Bottom of the Hill, and the Crepe Place, as well as house parties, and street performances. TW have been seen by thousands of concert-goers, in spontaneous acoustic street performances outside of venues such as the Greek, the Fox and the Fillmore, regularly drawing crowds of enthusiastic audiences excited to continue their music experience. They have become recognizable staples of these shows by many of the regular attendees of these concerts.

After a number of months in and out of the studio, their debut self-titled EP was released at Bottom of the Hill on November 25, after which they embarked on a busy three-week tour of the Southwest United States.

Jeremy Lyon and Zak Mandel-Romann formed Tumbleweed Wanderers in March 2011. Sharing a mutual admiration of the "O Brother Where Art Thou" soundtrack, Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get it On" and Fleet Foxes "Ragged Wood" the two left college to pursue music full-time. They recruited keyboardist Patrick Glynn, whom Zak had played with since he was ten, drummer Daniel Blum, whom Jeremy met when he was sweeping the floors of a recording studio, and singer / banjo player / guitarist Rob Fidel, whom Jeremy met at an open mic on the first day of college at UC Santa Cruz.

Young and energetic, this group will get you rocking and dancing the night away. The Wanderers are reminiscent of Dylan, Crosby Stills Nash and Young and Simon and Garfunkel. Their voices and instruments bring a youthful freshness mixed with old soul wisdom.

Indie Music Reviewer Magazine:

"Oakland band Tumbleweed Wanderers have struck gold with their debut E.P self-titled Tumbleweed Wanderers. The E.P which was released in November, 2011, witnesses the 5 piece band experimenting with instruments such as the harmonica, banjo and the organ."

"Tumbleweed Wanderers have that ability to make you clap and bop along... An exciting E.P filled with Folk, Blues, Rock n Roll and Soul. I give this E.P 5 stars."

-Lyndsey Fritzl, IMR

Thoughts on Tracks Blog:

"They released the first single, “Take it Back,” from their debut, self-titled EP back in September. The track is a genre-blending blast of a song that features an addictive recurring guitar riff, gratuitous horn and harp lines and pitch perfect harmonies that meld together into one helluva promising start..."

-Rob Peoni

Local Licks/East Bay Express:

"For a newly formed five-piece act, Tumbleweed Wanderers sound surprisingly polished. The members, some of whom have played together since adolescence, have a remarkable rapport — good enough, at least, to sing in constant three-part harmony. Their music is hooky and well-crafted, bolstered by its rich orchestration: banjo, trumpet, harmonica, organ, and a battery of drums. (self-released)"

The Owl Mag:

"I had never heard Tumbleweed Wanderers before and the great harmonies by Jeremy Lyon, Zak Mandrel-Romann, and Rob Fidel were a treat. Patrick Glynn on keys and Daniel Blum on drums rounded out the band. Tumbleweed Wanderers play Americana rock; add in their harmonies and they have a great sound."

-Don Albonico

Listen here: http://tumbleweedwanderers.com/#media.php


Lia Rose:

"In what is the last glorious strike in a hat-trick of precious songstresses today Lia Rose tucks us all in for the night with splendid production and fine writing. Appears she is moonlighting on a solo buzz from her duties with indie types Or, The Whale and Built For The Sea and by the sounds of it the break will do her no harm at all. ‘Sister’ is a classy exercise in restrained pop, you know the kind that could scream, shout and draw attention to itself and perhaps sell a million records but instead play it like it sounded inside. The LP it is taken from ‘When You Need Me Most’ was self-released earlier this month. A flowering talent." -- KD, mp3hugger.com


“Beautiful blend of vocals and strings ... The instrumentals and vocals featured on Lia Rose’s album When You Need Me Most each possess a quiet strength. The two work together, one never overshadowing the other, making this a successful solo effort for the California indie singer/songwriter." -- Performer Magazine


"Lia Rose sings with a refreshingly pure voice that is effortlessly engaging... [she] exhibited sincerity with both her gentle tone and her lyrics. She sat atop a stool barefoot, living behind her bangs, singing from her heart, and the audience loved it. Her peaceful sound of soft acoustic riffs paired with her smooth and fragile vocals offer something uniquely different. The event, put on by KC Turner in collaboration with KFOG radio was the perfect place to see Rose up close and personal. 'And we carry on as we’re meant to, and we all find home when we’re supposed to,' sang Rose. Her voice seemed to linger around the room with a dream-like quality, probably because she sounded a bit unreal. If you want something a little different with a lot of substance, check out one of her gigs." -- The Owl Mag

Listen here: http://www.liarose.com/listen.php


Thank you,

Matthew Hable
The Alternative Cafe
1230 Fremont Boulevard
Seaside, CA 93955
(831) 583-0913
www.thealternativecafe.com

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Aug 17, 2012 7:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN-change of topic for Arb

Well now, that youtube clip was pretty damn good music, altho in spots they veered toward the dreaded 'jam band' sound, but fortunately didn't take the plunge. And all the more reason i've got to head out to SF/CA one of these days. Especially now that Grandaddy has re-formed.

Grandaddy - Jed's Other Poem

The local RI version Six Star General - Jed's Other Poem

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 17, 2012 11:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN-change of topic for Arb

DUDE! Granddaddy played the Henry Miller Library last Wednesday night - a few days before Outside Lands. Jsem byl tam!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUkrVV0kdXA&;feature=relmfu

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Aug 18, 2012 6:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN-change of topic for Arb

Nice! You're fortunate to be living in/near a city with such a great wealth of quality/indie music. I know LA is not on your doorstep, but if you're down that way...

The Happy Hollows - Endless

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Poster: srtg83 Date: Aug 17, 2012 8:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

I was born and grew up in communist Hungary, I was beat-up, tear-gassed and arrested numerous times, usually but not always, attending unauthorized blues/rock gigs all around Budapest in the late 70's. This was a major annoyance to my father who was a military-court judge and a high ranking communist party official. What bothered him most that it brought attention to him as he was planning our escape. We talked often, before his passing, about those years before our defection and the stress he endured to get the family out. Btw, he received a 12 year prison term, while my mother got 10 (she was also a lawyer) in absentia. I will never forget taking the Lada apart in Vienna, our first stop out in the summer of 1980, when he and I pulled all the currency he carefully packed into the inside panels of that car.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 17, 2012 11:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

I can tell you nothing other than the utmost fucking respect I have for you and yours. To the sprit of 56!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Aug 17, 2012 10:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

And quite a few religious folks I'm sure. However, not in the Soviet Union because they murdered almost all of them.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Aug 17, 2012 11:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

One of the more moving things I've been to is a Christmas midnight mass in Prague in 1991 with folks that had to worship underground for years. While it's pretty clear I'm not a fan of organized religion, to be a part of a crowd that for years had had to worship in secret and in fear of persecution for doing so and now could openly proclaim their faith was very moving.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Aug 17, 2012 7:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

Hooliganism - refers to behavior that is riotous, bullying, or vandalizing. (wiki quote)

Perhaps they’ll bribe the prison guards for smart phones and hang out here at GD Forum over the course of the next two years. From the apt description of their crimes, sounds like this lil trio would fit right in these here parts.

It’s a rebel music ....

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Aug 17, 2012 4:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

the real tragedy is that only one of them is decent looking...

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Aug 17, 2012 4:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

Yeah, but she's friggin HOT

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Poster: b42l0ng Date: Aug 17, 2012 6:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Non-Dead FUCK PUTIN

Are they adopted children? I thought they were all lesbian...